#intersexphobia tw

[brettdoesdiscourse]

Just as an unfriendly reminder. The anti trans laws that are prohibiting trans youth from accessing gender-affirming care? They've made an exception for doctors performing "sex-affirming" surgery on literal babies to reinforce the gender binary.

A trans teenager cannot access life-saving hormone therapy, but doctors can make the decision to perform surgery on intersex infants to make them fit neatly into a box.

[butchbarbieagainstterfs]

Transphobes forgot what a sperm donor is

They're making stuff up about Caster and pretending to care about the black women she beat and all those "disadvantaged XX women"

I hope Caster and her wife sue these people or something

Ah so they’re using the whole “oNly A MaN anD a WomAn cOulD EvEr haVe A bAby ToGetHeR!! wHat Do yOu mEan IVF iS a ThinG???” homophobic talking point. Unsurprising.

[inter-sex]

Could someone please report @/cookierunkid ..? They're reblogging a lot of my posts with intersexism :( I already blocked them but somehow they kept reblogging...?

Also..friendly reminder that the person running this account is a mentally disabled 15 year old..we're not good with being insulted..

[rebellum]

Intersex people: yeah because my sex doesn't fit into a neat binary, it's been reassigned, and I had "corrective" genital surgery as a child, my relationship to sex is complex. Because of this I identify as FTMTF or MTFTM. I've spent my entire life in a state of gender and sex transition.

Perisex trans people: oh so you want me to die? You want me to die so you can spit on my grave?

[thatonegaybrit]

; hullo !! Shoutout to:

men who take estrogen

women who take testosterone

men who take testosterone

women who take estrogen

intersex people who take estrogen

intersex people who take testosterone

intersex people who take neither ( but ppl always assume " you must take one or the other right ?? " )

transmen who don't take anything

transwomen who don't take anything

transmen who've had top surgery

transmen who haven't had top surgery

transmen who want top surgery but can't / are waiting

transwomen who've gotten implants

transwomen who haven't gotten implants

transwomen who want implants but can't / are waiting

transwomen who's boobs grew naturally on E

intersex people who have beards and boobs

intersex people who are " visibly / obviously intersex "

intersex people who aren't " visibly / obviously intersex "

intersex people who have taken HRT willingly

intersex people who were forced into taking HRT and now have trauma around it and refuse to take HRT / don't want to take HRT

intersex people who were forced into taking HRT and now have trauma around it but still take / want to take HRT

enbies who take testosterone

enbies who take estrogen

enbies who take neither

nonbinary intersex people

intersex people who don't identify as non-binary / are smth else

trans men who shave

trans women who don't shave

intersex people who have been rejected from queer spaces / felt unsafe in queer spaces

transmen who have been rejected from queer spaces / felt unsafe in queer spaces

transwomen who have been rejected from queer spaces / felt unsafe in queer spaces

intersex people who don't like it / its being used on them ( due to trauma or not )

intersex people who do like it / its being used on them ( whether they have trauma about it or not )

trans people who don't like it / its being used on them ( due to trauma or not )

trans people who do like it / its being used on them ( whether they have trauma about it or not )

transmascs / transfems who don't identify as a man / woman

transmascs who identify as women / fem-aligned / non-binary

transfems who identify as men / masc-aligned / non-binary

; y'all and your experiences aren't included much I find, and I think it's really important to do so since you're a part of the queer community as much as anyone else is. And since we are queer, there's no reason we should have to fit into tiny boxes or be excluded for " not making sense " etc. Love all of you + the ones not on this list !! /gen

[jjustwhatmatters]

This is such a refreshing take

i wanted to say, as an intersex person, it really is okay if you wanna use it/its pronouns. i was harrassed and called "an it" for most if not all of my life. i still do. but you know what? seeing people who want to use the pronouns, who find euphoria and joy in them, who feel like in some way it validates their identity, humanizes/"normalizes" it/its pronouns, and removes the stigma. also seeing it in a positive light is way better. i don't think projecting trauma from the past is appropriate anymore. obviously if you outright disrespect trans people and use it/its pronouns you're gonna have a hard time finding community, but if people want to say hey actually, these pronouns rule, that heals the hurt, cuz guess what? they do rule. i am ""an it"" and it fucks so hard. embrace it. use it/its pronouns. i don't care if you're cis, trans, genderqueer, gnc, agender, nonhuman, otherkin, something else entirely, whatever, go bonkers. join the club

[theoihalioistuff]

He is a hermaphrodite in some esoteric contexts, including the Orphic Hymns, his female half is called Misa and there’s also art of him that exists with breasts (not moobs).

“my most dread mother, whom death eventually carried away” strongly reminds me of the version of Dionysus that’s the son of Persephone (the child doesn’t seem to be referring to its human mother in context).

True that there’s no identical sort of “incarnation” stories with two mortal parents I can think of, but irt Dionysus, he was born multiple times in myth so it’s not a huge conceptual leap imo

I didn't know about Misa, that's cool, I'll look them up. I still believe the text isn't referring to Dionysos though, but I can appreciate the similarities. If you want a detailed discussion on hermaphrodites in Phlegon's tales (and broadly a discussion of intersex people in antiquity) see Between the monstrous and the Divine: Hermaphrodites in Phlegon of Tralles' Mirabilia by Julia Doroszewska (here)

The rundown: "Androgyny occupies two poles of the sacred. [As] pure concept, pure vision of the mind, it appears charged with the highest values. Fulfilled in a being of flesh and blood, it is a monstrosity, and nothing more. It attests the wrath of the gods against the group that had this misfortune to reveal it. The unfortunates who represent the divine wrath are removed as soon as possible.” (Hermaphroditea, Recherches sur l'être double promoteur de la fertilité dans le monde antique – Marie Delcourt)

[jackkatzz]

Coffee anon again, what kind of crap are people sending you man? You seem so chill, why do people have to be rude??

Ah well.. I get a variety of rude things from anons. Here I'll post a screenshot of a few that have been sitting for quite some time now.

*TW for transphobia and intersex phobia as well as general rude language and behavior

It's why I had shut the anon feature off for awhile ^^;;

[butchbarbieagainstterfs]

I got this ask on my sideblog for anti TERF stuff and I felt you might "appreciate" (/sarcasm) the intersexism and ableism

I’m intersex and don’t produce ova or sperm. I was literally born infertile because I was born without ovaries, which means no ova. Idk why they spout these lies like it’s scientific fact lmfao, when they’re literally wrong.

And yeah they throw around that r word so much, it’s beyond repulsive

[existennialmemes]

Holding aside that, that is observably not how biology works, what's especially hilarious is that this isn't even true. We have no idea what Imane's chromosomes are nor the criteria Russia disqualified her over (after having certified her gender several years in a row beforehand) because what they disqualified her over recently has never been released.

But you heard something you wanted to believe because it suits your bigotry and you just ran with it, not caring if it was true or not, because your ilk never cares about facts or biology.

You only care about perpetuating your own hatred. You're a sad lot, deeply dedicated to misogyny and racism, because that's the heart of your entire ideology.

Now be gone, bigot. Into The Void with you.

Apparently Rowling hasn't tweeted since her cyber bullying meltdown, and I'm thinking that might be related to Imane Khelif's lawsuit, and now I'm wondering if we can give her an additional gold medal for being the first person to ever get JK to finally shut the fuck up.

[confessions-official]

[TW for abuse; misogyny; slutshaming; transphobia; biphobia; intersexphobia]

I dated a woman because I thought I wouldn’t have to deal with the abuse, the cheating, the possessiveness and the slutshaming. I was raised to believe that all women were like sisters and wouldn’t do this to each other.

Instead, my girlfriend Constantly compares me to other girls. I’m intersex, so I’m very androgynous looking and she talks about how she wish she had a girlfriend who had big boobs and was “actually pretty.” I never tried to conceal my intersex condition from her. I guess she thought I was binding my chest or something and got freaked out to find out that yes, I am that flat. she makes lots of comments about how I look like an ugly short teenage boy.  I was never particularly confident about my appearance but after being with her for two years, I feel like the ugliest person who ever walked the Earth. 

Found out she’s also a terf and if I had any idea I never would have dated this girl in the first place. Idk if she went terf while dating me or if she always was and chose to conceal this from me til after she moved in. She’s convinced I’m a trans woman, thinks I used to have a penis and is now trying to accuse me of tricking her into sleeping with a man when she’s the one who wanted to have sec with me in the first place

She’s called me a dirty whore for having slept with a man king before I even met her and talks about shit like “male residue” and other bullshit. She has super puritanical views about sex that I didn’t know about until she moved in with me and has been taking them out on me. She called me a slut for using tampons and sneered and was like “I bet that they made your pussy loose and that’s why your ex boyfriend dumped you.” Said sdisgusting things like she bet that to a guy sex with me must feel like “throwing a hotdog down a hallway.” I thought I would never have to hear shit like this from a woman. That’s why I dated a woman in the first place.

She seems to hate everything about me, but at the same time flips out if she catches me talking on the phone, any of my friends or family. She accuses me of sleeping around with all my friends.

Anytime something goes wrong in her life I’m to blame. If our doordash gets delivered to the wrong address, I get screamed at. If she ripped a hole in her favorite pair of pants, I get screamed at. If the screen door gets jammed shut because she kept it she fucking screams at me and sometimes hits me. The only reason I’m still with her is because I can’t afford rent on my own. If I ever break up with her, I’m not dating anyone ever again, because I feel like the ugliest, most revolting undesirable person in the world.

I don’t think I’m ever going to feel normal again. When it comes to dating, people expect you to look like one binary sex or the other, regardless of gender and when you’re something like me that has mixed traits, people freak out.  It feels like being in a relationship being the way I am is just setting myself up for abuse.  My ex-boyfriend was nasty about it too but I thought that was just because he was a dude.  I thought a woman would be more excepting of this kind of thing. She was supposed to be safe.

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[hotfudgecherryrosy]

What do you MEAN pcos can fall under the intersex umbrella? Doctors dont tell me shit!

It took me not having my period for like ~3 months to get diagnosed with pcos because my doctor kept dismissing the symptoms as results of puberty despite the fact i had already finished puberty >:(

One of the symptoms being smth called dirty neck syndrome which can also be a symptom of diabetes (correlation because of insulin resistance) like that couldve been really bad because instead of being treated properly for anything i was sent to a dermatologist that gave me a topical cream that didnt work

"But only 2% of the population is intersex. It's not that common. Why should we reframe or perception of gender for intersex people?"

Completely ignoring the fact that empathy exists. You do realize that 2% of the population in the medical field is considered very common, yes?

2% of children and 0.5% of adults have a peanut allergy and that's so common that they have entire rules around in in public spaces.

0.24-1% of the population has Rheumatoid arthritis. That's an eighth to a half of the number of intersex people!

1-2% of people are estimated to have autism, and that's considered a common condition.

0.1%-2.6% of people will get melanoma in their life time, and that's considered common.

1.2% of people have epilepsy and that's considered common.

Completely ignoring statistics like 6% of women have PCOS (which is a condition that can fall under the intersex umbrella). 2% of the population in the medical field is considered a common condition, and ergo by medical terms intersex is in itself common.

I don't think you realize how big 2% is. That's 2 in 100 people. If you walk into 3 fully filled classrooms (when I was in school a full classroom was 40 students). Chances are you just saw 2 intersex kids and didn't even know it.

So yeah. I think intersex is common enough to include in our discussions around gender and how transphobic rules affects intersex people.

-fae

[normal-with-adhd-is-a-joke]

So far in this lifespan psychology class this professor has:

- used the term hermaphrodite to describe a human

- used the term mentally retarded several times and in fact titled one of her sections in her lecture "mental retardation"

- said that ADHD can be caused by food additives (it can't but nice ableism)

- said that people grow out of ADHD/their need for medication (we don't usually but nice ableism)

- that's it literally all she had to say about ADHD was ableist garbage.

Can somebody else take this one I'm exhausted /hj

[occasionallygiveadamn]

Please report and block asexualpower, it's a fake ace blog created to breed drama and discourse. I was going through Twitter last night and came across a thread with screenshots of their blog (warning for transphobia, homophobia, and lesbophobia.)

I looked at it for myself hoping that somebody had just made some screenshots in photoshop and it's absolutely awful. (Pictures of anti-LGBT+ posts under the cut, including posts against intersex and asexual people.)

This is disgusting, please report them so nobody stumbles on 'em while looking for a positivity blog.

[purplepeoplelickingtruthpeddler]

For the (especially trans) people out there watching tru/med discourse go down: the idea that you need a specific kind of dysphoria, dysphoria period, or the desire to medically transition, in order to be a "real trans" is toxic gatekeeper bullshit.

Nobody goes from 0-100, from cis to trans. You question things a lot, and gradually. Talking about "leading kids to question themselves" as if it's a bad thing. Know now, if you can question your gender, if there's literally any wiggle room to do that, you should. If there's a 0.05 percent chance that you'll be happier from questioning your gender, you should. If you're like "%99.99 cis" but there's still a %00.01 part of you that feels uncomfortable with your assigned gender, you should question. Nobody gets to quantify how much unhappiness merits exploring your gender but you. Everybody starts here, however far it goes. Because we minimize our trans experiences the way transphobic people around us have done since forever, until we learn otherwise.

Plenty of binary trans people don't feel the need to medically transition, they are still %100 trans and %100 their gender identity. If cis people don't get to define them by their sex characteristics, neither too do trans people. Trans people don't get a special pass saying we’re incapable of or allowed to be transphobic towards our own community. This space belong to all trans people.

Plenty of trans people would love to medically transition to have both or no sex characteristics. But you don't see that option available, it's not normalized, and no one thinks transitioning outside of the binary is okay or that people outside of the binary want to transition at all. Intersex people are still treated like undesireables. it's assumed that enbies don't experience dysphoria. This space belongs to all trans people.

As someone who's also pan, this rhetoric exists in other communities. It's always "if you’re bi then you're not as wlw or mlm as I am", it's always "you're not pan, you're bi and confused, stop erasing us with your existence", it's always a pissing contest to see who's experiencing the most misery. Dysphoria is terrible, but it is okay to not have your identity defined by your pain, or by the biggotry you've experienced. Someone else being trans and not experiencing the particular struggles you've experienced does not negate your identity. Maybe no one's ever told you that, I can't apologize for them, or for your parents, or for your community, and I can't make people validate themselves outside of abuse and ego. I've tagged younger family members as queer years before they came out to me. They may never openly identify. They may never be active with the same gender. Their identity can and probably will change again as they continue questioning. I'm still not ever going to be more gay than they are, I'm never going to need to compare myself to them to feel pride. If you need to think of yourself as a higher level of gay or trans to feel proud, then generally I feel sorry for you that the inevitable biggots in your life got into your head.

We should want people to question. We should want our communities to grow. Anyone who tells you otherwise isn't even on their own side, much less yours.

[pansy-placebo]

This is a great point - it also goes the other way around, too. I've met a couple trans people who dismiss intersex people as an aberration, a statistical outlier to be ignored.

Also I think that while there's a loud group of people online claiming to be intersex and hating trans people, it's worth baring in mind that people lie on the internet.

Whenever the topic of trans+intersex rights comes up on twitter, swathes of "trans" or "intersex" people come crawling out of the woodwork, tripping over themselves to call some group delusional. So you go to their pages, their bios don't mention it. You look up the words "trans" or "intersex" on their history, and they haven't mentioned their status before now- on their 3 year old account- or only mentioned those identities to shit on them. You'd be suspicious.

Like yeah MAYBE this is an intersex person who was really was super private about it until now- it's a private matter, after all.

But I've seen accounts which later contradict themselves or outright admit it was a lie, because they knew it was a lie they could get away with. And it would be very weird for someone to come out as intersex/trans/etc just for a "gotcha."

Sometimes white supremacists will pretend to be POC online just to make up a POC who agrees with them, and often people will see right through them because they're literally just not saying things a person would say. I've also seen TERFs making up trans people to agree with them. In the same vein, when you see someone suddenly claiming to be intersex exclusively to put themselves or others down- take it with a pinch of salt.

I'm not saying self-hating people don't exist because they certainly do, but I also think the numbers can be skewed online from the sheer volume of bigots making shit up. I've gone on posts apparently filled with retweets of people claiming to be a certain identity just to make a point, and upon investigation found over half the accounts saying so to be suspicious at best.

Of course, don't call people liars without evidence, but liars do exist, and it's worth bearing that in mind if you spot a sudden epidemic of members of minority group seeming to act against their best interests. Especially if the numbers online don't seem to match the numbers irl. People lie a lot on the internet.

Anyway! That was way longer than I intended. Go drink some water. Or lemonade. And eat a banana! or a cookie lol.

we cannot begin to act like intersex transphobes and transmisogynists don't exist, and it is actively dangerous to perpetuate that these demographics don't exist. There are absolutely intersex circles that frame their ideology around the "disordered male/female" idea.

Intersex and trans solidarity is key to keeping both of our communities alive- but intersex TERFs are a thing. Intersex transphobes who align themselves under the DSD label are very real and just like transmasc TERFs will use their marginalized status as a weapon against others and a justification of their exterminatory behavior.

Intersexism is a core culture issue of TERF and other transphobe rhetoric, they often operate under and agree with the medicalization of intersex bodies or the "disorders of sexual development" label. TERFs believing that their own intersex female body is just disordered further justifies their idea that there is an ideal framework surrounding the idea of being "female", and inherently means it's something trans women cannot obtain- regardless of intersex status. It is still rooted in transmisogyny.